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Wednesday, October 11, 2006

The Village

I had to cut today's discussion short because we needed to edit our letters, but many of you didn't get to finish arguing your points.

Here are a few questions I'd still like to discuss via the blog (feel free to deviate and create your own questions if these don't do it for you):

One of the elders declares that "The world moves for love. It kneels before it in awe." Does this hold true in The Village?
Did the village elders succeed in their original mission?
Does society create evil or control the evil that rests innately in individuals?
Do The Village and The Crucible essentially tell the same story?
Where do cowardice and courage collide?
Noah? Ivy? Lucius? Kevin the park ranger?

Discuss amongst yourselves.


Blogger kaitlinb said...

I think the village that the elders created was infact a way to move toward love. I believe it was an atempt but it was not a success. In the village fear and deception hide true love. Just look at what happened to the little true love that they had, Lucius got stabbed. The elders attempt was to hide their children from evil and to teach them to live away from it, yet they created more evil and an overtaking fear. Did the elders succeed in their original mission, if their mission was to run and hide from the real world then it was a success, but creating a world of all good and hope was not a success. The village is a perfect example of society trying to control evil and in doing so creating a worse evil. Lucius lies stabbed, Noah is dead in a hole and everyone is living in a lie that controls their everything. Their lack of honesty and their deception is the greatest evil that the village has. I do not think Noah is a coward, I think he is so mentally strained and unstable that he is not one or the other. Ivy and Lucius are not only courages but they are curious, I also think they both sense the same thing, that this world that they live in has secrets hidden in it that they want to discover. When in discussion people said that they are not brave they are only stupid, I disagree I think they know their is more to those they do not speak of and all that the village hides. Kevin also has a huge amount of courage and curiosity, but I think he also has faith in Ivy. She has the ability to give that off.

2:40 PM  
Blogger Spencer Z said...

I fully agree with Kaitlin's ideas about the superficial love without honesty in The Village. I mentioned this in class, though I will mention it again for the sake of this blog. John Wooden, basketball coach for the UCLA Bruins once said, "sports don't create character, they reveal it." I think the same can be said for situations of adversity. Everyone has within them the capability to be brave and when we are confronted with adversity, courage and cowardice collide. It is at this point that the strength of our character is revealed. There is good and evil in everybody; the trick lies in learning to control them. When Ivy acts out of love, she is given the motivation to act with a strong will.

7:42 PM  
Blogger emilee p said...

I agree with Kaitlin in the fact that if the elders mission was to run and hide from the real world then it was a complete success. However, if their mission was to create an innocent society without hurt and suffering, they completely failed. Near the end of the film one of the elders realizes the truth, “We cannot run from heartache,” he says “… heartache is a part of life. We know that now.”
As for Noah, I believe he was not trying to hurt Ivy in the woods; he was trying to protect her. I think that Noah knew the village’s secret all along (if you noticed the woman with the baby in the old photograph, I think that is Noah.) Since Noah knows that the people of the village are afraid of the “one we no not speak of,” I think Noah does not want her to leave and is trying to scare her back to the village.
I also agree with Spencer when he says, everyone is capable of being brave in trying moments; this is where cowardice and courage collide. Everyone has the choice to run and hide or to stand and fight.
In moments of adversity, the problem is choosing when it is wiser to fight or wiser to run.

8:45 PM  
Blogger nathan a said...

When I described Noah as “red” I couldn’t explain in class what I meant. However, yellow symbolizes the village and red symbolizes the outside world which the villagers fear to face. Red is the color of human nature and tragedy. However, the villagers find that suppressing the red entirely can rob them of their innocence, in the same way that living in it can, because there is good in the outside world and human nature, and thus, good in the red. Red saves Ivy’s life when she takes off her yellow hood and reveals her red hair just before killing Noah. This murder was bad but necessary for her defense which is why it revealed the red within her. The villagers never address the red, but that does not make it go away. By barring out the red, the villagers don’t defeat it, but rather prevent themselves from using it to progress. Rather then hide from it they should have exposed themselves to it to understand it as Ivy did twice in the movie.

9:10 PM  
Blogger Jordyn S said...

People often search for love in unique ways. Everyone is looking for something different, and too many times an opportunity comes along that is surpassed. The world "moves" towards love in the essence that we as a society are fascinated by love and we will search the world for it, will move up, down, and all around just to feel the way described in all the movies. The Village is no exception. It is unique; however, in the fact that this town was created for a type of acceptance among people who have experienced a similar hardship, they lost a person that they love. Thus, they all move in order to find love from people who feel exactly as they do. This is where the elders fail. They have allowed each person within this community to feel that love can only exist in seclusion when in reality, you need to experience different types of people and interact with the outside world in order to comprehend "love." Hardship is necessary, because it makes you a stronger person and tends to cause feelings of gratefulness when something good comes along. The members of this village have been dealt one card, and already dropped out of the game of life. Evil is then created by the temptation and wonder of what lies within the surrounding forest. It is possible that there could be love within these secret barriers, so why not move to find it? This developing curiosity creates the evil within this society and at the same time, assumption and rational thought control the evil that rests innately in individuals. Although the society creates evil with the bewilderment of what lies beyond the confines of the forests, the townspeople are told that evil beings exist by their elders, and assume that they are correct and choose to believe every word fed to them because, they are after all the leaders of this society, what purpose would they have lying to its residents? This characteristic is what keeps the society going; their ability to be tricked into believing that these things really exist, that love is only here, and if they venture into forbidden places, their love may be destroyed. Such is shown by Ivy and Lucius. Ivy should not go into the forest, because if she does, there is a chance she will not return, and her ability to love will no longer exist, and at the same time, if she does not go, Lucius may die, and she will have no one to love. This is where cowardice and courage collide, love. It takes great courage to love someone. Knowing that one person can become your whole world, and you may become unhealthily infatuated with them and they could throw it all away in one minute. Cowardice comes in with the fact that because people cannot find the courage to accept that the above could potentially occur, they do not love without limit. For this town, they are cowardly because they hide from the rest of the world, will not let people in (or out) because they are too afraid of being hurt again. Yet they have courage, because they believe strongly enough in the fact that they can survive without anybody else that they are willing to base their entire way of life off of their belief, knowing that the smallest breach in security could lead to everyone wanting out, and this village being destroyed forever. I expect that many will disagree with me but I believe that Ivy is a coward. I think that her disability scares her. She knows it is possible that she may be severely hurt and too easily taken advantage of and for this reason I think that her character holds back a lot and truly sells herself short. In my opinion, letting Noah die was no brave act. True, Noah was chasing after her in the woods dressed as a creature with the intent to scare her, but she had been previously told that the entire “creatures in the woods” premise was just an act put on by the elders. Noah succeeded in scaring Ivy, and I believe that she let this fear overcome any ounce of courage she could have possibly contained. She had her back turned to him the whole time, which to me represents that she was too cowardly to turn and face her fears head on. Stepping out of the way only solidifies this for me as she merely takes one step to the side. I believe that Noah has a very distinct color to Ivy, as does Lucius and that she knows the whole time in the woods that it is him but instead of investigating this theory further, jumps out of the way just in the knick of time as Noah falls to his death. This is not to say that Noah is not also a coward, because he loves Ivy, but is too afraid to go after her as his pure self. Instead he covers himself up as one of the unspeakable creatures of the forest as though he were trying to cover up his flaws so that Ivy could not see them, which is ironic seeing as Ivy cannot see at all. He does not have the courage to reveal to Ivy his true self, because he is afraid that she will not love him the way that he intends.

As for Nathan's discussion of the colors: Knowing that the "red" creatures do not actually exist and were only made up by the same "yellow" society trying to protect themselves from the evil that they created, are the colors even relevant?
Can they really represent anything if they are both created and manifested in order to be maintained by the same source?

12:03 AM  
Blogger JordanL said...

I think that the quote about love is true in The Village in the sense that the awe at it. The reason the village was created was to try to protect the children and the parents were doing it out of love. I think that a lot of the actions taken in The Village were out of love but a lot of times that creates problems. I don't think that the elders succeeded in their mission because it just created more problems and you can't have true happiness or love when there are lies and fears involved. I think that Noah was a bad person because even though he doesn’t think the same way as everyone he knows what he is doing and know the consequences of his actions. He knew what he wanted ( Ivy) and he knew how to get it. I also agree with yesterday’s discussion that Noah was trying to hurt Ivy because he has realized even after he has tried to kill Lucius Ivy still loved him and didn't want him.

7:58 AM  
Blogger OfAThousandSuns said...

The world does move for love, because human actions are motivated by love. Take Ivy, a blind woman, who wanders through a dangerous forest into a world she never knew even existed, all for her love. The village elders partially succeeded in their mission, which was to create a world without crime and fear. They succeeded because minus Noah, there was no crime. However, they maintained the order in their village by creating a society where people fear these hooded creatures of death more than death itself. The creatures are actually fake, they are are they elders in costume. So really they have not succeeded in their mission. Society controls evil that rests innately in individuals, becuase if there is evil in someone, it will get out somehow. When and how is circumstantial. They do not the the same story.

10:40 AM  
Blogger BessieS said...

I agree with Kaitlin and Spencer about how there is good and evil in everyone and the elders tried to hide the evil but they were unsuccessful. I think that a person’s love controls their good and that controls their evil, if that makes sense. If they are truly in love and they are loved back they will make the right choices and very little of their ‘red’ will show through. But if they love someone and are not loved back in the same way, like Noah, their love will turn into jealousy and their good will let the evil take over because they want revenge on who or what is depriving them of being loved back. If you love someone enough I think you would be able to let him or her go if they were happier somewhere else. I don’t think that Noah was capable of that mentally and all the anger he had took over him and his ‘evil’ shown through.

3:41 PM  
Blogger Erin G said...

Is love not the basic goal in life? The world does move for love, but I don't think that the elders acted in love when they created the village. I believe that their actions were selfish and they were blinded with pain when they decided to create the village. Who ever gave a person the right to hold another being's entire existence in the palm of their hands? The elders actions, even as they were reacting to deaths (which is ironic), take away others lives. The younger generation will never get to experience the life that is today; as Mrs. Kakos said to me, maybe they are living in a dead society, one that lived a long time ago and whos time is up. Where they really better off? There is still crime and pain and death. For example, take the opening scene, there will always be death and pain, but a person must experience pain to be able to move on and enjoy the good things that happen in life.

I don't think that the village elders succeeded at all. What innocence existed in the village they created? Certainly not their own. I also think they were just plain selfish, as I said before. They were trying to protect their children from pain, but what could be more painful than learning of such a lie?

I agree with what people have said about love, and where courage and cowardice collide. Also, Jordan, I really like your thoughts about Ivy. They really opened my eyes to an entire other way of thinking about it. Nice arguments! I also have some questions:
-Death seemed to be a significant motif to me. The opening scene. Skinned animals. Also, dead trees were shown often and when Ivy is running from "the creature," a shot zooms in on her feet running on dead leaves. What do you think is the significance of this motif (if any)? Why is the opening scene in place and what role does it play?

4:30 PM  
Blogger emilee p said...

*Quick question
Did anyone notice that one of Ivy’s escorts into the wood was Kitty’s husband? What is the significance of this?

5:53 PM  
Blogger Sarah P said...

I think that in The Vilage, love is one of the most powerful forces, if not THE most powerful force. It is the force that drives Lucius towards ivy, it is the force that drives Noah to kill Lucius and it is the force that drives Ivy to go and retrieve the medicine for Lucius. So i think that love is what creates hope in this story, and hope is the reason they created this whole town in the first place. They are a town of secrets, and behind most of the secrets there are reasons of love. These people go their whole lives trying to keep their secrets. They have boxs and boxs that hold the secrets of their pasts, but when it gets down to it they are all searching for someone to share their present and their future with.

When Ivy's sister gets married, she is then allowed to start her own conquest, in search of love. When she choses Lucius, she has to ask her sisters permission in order for him to be the one that she loves, because in the past her sister once loved Lucius. The reason this is such a big deal, her sisters feeligns in the past, is because since love is such a strong force in this story all past relations must be aknowledged (spelling??) adn resolved in order for the pair to be able to be together. This society is one based upon secrets, so love is one of the few things left in their world that is out in the open for all to see.

It is a small town, so eventually when the elders die, somebody needs to be able to carry on this seemingly decietful society. So near the end when Ivy returns and the news of Noahs death has reached the elders, it is said that because of Noah's actions they will be able to continue their way of life. So i do think taht the elders have succeeded in their mission.

You all know how i feel about this movie....but it does have a good story line and a lot of controversial subjects. If it didn't have the scary parts in might be an OK movie!

P.S: Is the girl who played Ivy in the movie, blind in real life?? Because she sprinted up that hill and into a forest without tripping.. which i think would be pretty hard to do without seeing anything. Just wondering.

6:52 PM  
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6:53 PM  
Blogger Anoel said...

I agree with Spencer and Kaitlin in that the Village aimed, and missed, for love. The deciept that they create taints their origial purpose, a town free of evil. I think that good and evil are juxtoposed in that if there is good somewhere, evil also has to dwell there. This makes a society without evil impossible, because evil and good are naturally drawn together.

I also believe that Noah isn't neccesarily good or bad, but he is HUMAN. He acts out of raw emotion and desire, and he doesn't look forward to consequences even if he does feel regret later.

7:04 PM  
Blogger Jessica K said...

I agree with Kaitlin where the elders built their village for love. They wanted a place with goodness and an escape from what is evil. However, they created a place of danger and fear instead. The society they created I believe controls the evil that lies inside you. Since they wanted to get away from it they repressed any thing or any one that coul lead to it. Everyone possesses feelings (good and bad) that can lead to evil and it's our responsibility to express those feelings in an appropriate way. When Noah had the feeling of jealousy, it took over him and he attempted to kill Lucius. He should have talked with Lucius but instead his evil side got the better of him.
I also agree with Spencer that when we are faced with danger we have the choice to be cowardice or couragous and this is where they collide. Ivy is absolutely couragous. When she is faced with the monster in the woods she stanads up and fights. She is frightened but she doesn't cower away. Noah is cowardice. When he becomes jealous instead of building up his courage and attempting to confront Lucius about his feelings, he takes the easy way out using violence. In each of these scenes there were points where one could be cowardice of brave and one has to make the decision of which to go with.

7:27 PM  
Blogger Ms. Kakos said...

These are the most powerful, eloquent, and persuasive comments I've ever seen on the blog. You've offered readings of this film that I have never considered.

I'm beginning to come to the conclusion that M. Night Shyamalan enjoys conflating polar opposites by showing how everything can transform into its contrary--vulnerability into impenetrability, weakness into strength, yellow/safety into red/danger, disability into superpower. The only immovable emotion is love.

8:27 PM  
Blogger erinl said...

I think the elders did succeed in what they were trying to accomplish. They sent a blind girl into the "towns" so she could get medicine, their village was deep within Walker Park, which was owned by Ivy's grandfather. The elders all kept quiet about their secret, and no one ever found out, except for Noah, who was killed while wearing the costume. The only person who had somewhat of an idea as to what was going on was the park ranger who looked at Ivy as though she was crazy when she told him she lived in the park. The elders got what they strived for; a place where they would be protected form the outside world. But that does not mean there were not still problems in the village. I think that Lucius could be either red or yellow. Red because he is not scared of the woods, and Ivy would not be hesitant to tell him his color if it were something else. Yellow because he is Ivy's protector, therefore he could be the "safe color." Noah is probably red because he represents evil. Society creates evil. The constant bashing of people, the feeling of unworthiness all comes from society. Society says this is wrong, so we do too, but there are others who go aginst society and create problems. I think the issues come from the people in the society.

8:38 PM  
Blogger christine b. said...

I believe that Noah was trying to kill Ivy in the woods because the last time he has spoken or interacted with her, she slapped him many times and then caused him to be shut in the "quiet room" alone. Noah was angry with Ivy for slapping him and reacted on his first impulse, which was to hurt her just like she had hurt him.

What do you think that the cross-like image represents, both at the beginning when the boy stands in front of the forest with his arms our, looking like a cross and at the end when Ivy stands in the same position to save herself? Also, near the beginning of the movie, a reflection in the river shows the "thing that is not spoken of" and near the end of the movie a reflection in the river shows us Ivy running home. What do you think the significance of this is and why does Shymalan chose these specific characters to be shown in the reflections?

Responding to Jordan’s question about the colors, I believe that they are irrelevant because, like Spencer said in class, everyone has different view of what specific colors mean. Only when society specifically gives a color a meaning, like in the village, do people agree on the meaning of that specific color.

I believe that the Village created by the elders was a success because they succeeded in their original mission, which was to create a Village filled with love and hope. Although this was created under deception and lies, they were meant to protect the succeeding generations from heartbreak and evil, so I believe this justifies their actions. Also, at the end of the movie, like Sarah stated, an elder declares that Noah has given this village a chance to continue. I believe that this shows the Village's success, even though crime still existed in their society.

Responding to Erin's questions, I that the opening scene illustrates the nature of human race to unify and support those experiencing hardship. After the scene of the young boy that has died and the father crying on top of the coffin, a scene of a great feast is shown and I believe this represents the ability of humans to overcome hardship when they unify.

8:40 PM  
Blogger Kyle N said...

I completly agree with what spancer said. throughout the Village, siruations of adversity revael each charcters true "colors". Onne is to make the assuption that Ivy is a very brave, strong-willed woman becuase of her tremendous amount of courage in the face of adversity. The same, I believe, is to be said about Lucius. When he feels he is responsible for the creatures coming to the village and making on all the doors, he does not run from his faults. He wrties the elders a letter and owns up to his mistakes. This is a true mark of a couragous man. Finally, the park ranger exhibts courage when he sneaks a bottle of medicne for Ivy. to conclude, I could not agree more with what Spencer said, and the beautiful quote he put on his blog by the legendary John Wooden.

8:56 PM  
Blogger Kyle N said...

I completly agree with what spancer said. throughout the Village, siruations of adversity revael each charcters true "colors". Onne is to make the assuption that Ivy is a very brave, strong-willed woman becuase of her tremendous amount of courage in the face of adversity. The same, I believe, is to be said about Lucius. When he feels he is responsible for the creatures coming to the village and making on all the doors, he does not run from his faults. He wrties the elders a letter and owns up to his mistakes. This is a true mark of a couragous man. Finally, the park ranger exhibts courage when he sneaks a bottle of medicne for Ivy. to conclude, I could not agree more with what Spencer said, and the beautiful quote he put on his blog by the legendary John Wooden.

8:56 PM  
Blogger ryan f said...

The Village was an interesting example for this quote. I agree with it completely, but I am not sure if it makes sense with the village. The elders claim that they care so much for those living in the village so they must keep them away from modern society and inside the preserve. Then, once they have already created a lifestyle inside the said "village," the elders feel as though it was there job to protect the citizens, through fear, by creating "the ones we do not speak of". How can this act of "love" be honest if it is only shown by creating fear? Can an intense fear lead to love? To me, love is built on trust and honesty, what is going to happen when eventually the citizens find out; will the love still be there? Therefore, I think that society does not create evil, but they control it. The village happens to be an exception to the case, because the elders created the monsters, but in today’s society, evil is controlled but authority. Most people are afraid of the consequences so they dare not commit a crime, but that leads again to the timeless question, what is evil? How can we truly know if evil is created or controlled it the definition for evil is so vague? If evil was defined the same as in The Crucible and in The Village, than yes, the two tell somewhat of the same story. Both societies were ruled by fear; everything the characters did had some relation to the present evil at the time. I really have no idea how to end this so I am just going to leave it at that, with a few questions to think about.

9:21 PM  
Blogger Jennifer W said...

Emilee- i noticed Ivy's escort in the woods was her sisters husband as well. I think it was because It was her brother-in-law and they wanted a family member to protect her. I don't know the significance of the other escort though.

I have a few questions: Is there a connection between Kevin the park ranger and Ivy? The name on the truck was Walker, which must be the company name, and when Kevin asks Ivy her name, she says her last name is Walker. Are Kevin and Ivy related? Is Kevin Ivy's dads son? Did he leave him behind when he decided to create the village?

The goal in the village is to rid their family and friends of heartache, correct? If it is, they did not succeed at all. Noah ends up stabbing Lucius and this affects everyone. How is that successful? They are lying to thier loved ones, possibly scaring them for life if they ever found out. How is that successful? They are instilling a fear in them (the beasts) that could be considered as great of a fear that people in a normal society contain. How is that successful?

The elders created this village to help them get over their heartache, when time is the only real thing tha can heal it. In my opinion, the village was just a distraction for the elders, they made it so they would essentially forget about their troubles, but by doing this, they created new ones.

Another question i have is, do you think Noah has a color? It makes sense to me that he would because they are such good friends in the beginning. If he does, could Ivy see it in the woods through the suit of the creature? Did she know it was him all along and she let him fall in the hole as pay back for possibley killing her fiance?

I don't think Noah is evil because he is mentally retarded. This is no excuse but his mind is not as intricate as one who is not. Does this make him stabbing Lucius ok?

9:31 PM  
Blogger mackenzieL said...

I agree with Ms. Kakos and many of you that love is an immovable emotion/idea in The Village. However, can fear be immovable as well? I think that in this village, yes, love does play a large part but fear is so intertwined into everything that it seems that even love seems to give slightly against the heaviness of it. While Ivy is in the forest, she is obviously afraid, but sometimes in that fear you can see flickers of indecisiveness about whether to continue on her journey in the horrible wood. Her hope and love for Lucius and her marriage to him seem to be questioned in those brief moments.
It also seems that the villagers only love, or get along with, each other because they are afraid of what might happen if they "go against the grain" and choose to dislike or even hate someone. I think this is what happened to Noah when he decides to try to murder Lucius. He no longer afraid of the forest and its sounds and monsters, he only feels jealousy and hatred and hurt. These feelings to come with every baby born on this planet; no matter how hard you plug your ears and hum, "sin" will come in some form because it's our human nature.
Fear slides under the doors of the village houses every night, it crawls between dinner plates during community potlucks and even slithers into happy ceremonies. During the wedding, fear is shown by the screams of the kids outside who saw "those we do not speak of". Lucius' mother told him the story of his father's death to dissuade him from going through the forest. I think that she also told him this story to scare him out of going. I wonder whether this was the best way to tell him not to go.
Lucius said that there were secrets in every corner of the village, yet I think that along with the secrets there is fear of the past, of the present, and of the future, becoming more prevalent and immovable every day.

*Why did the elders decide to use fear to control their society? Is it the only way to control the villager's future curiosity?*

11:02 PM  
Blogger Megan D said...

I think that in The Village, the elders did what they did because they loved their families and didn't want to see them get hurt. I think that in a way they were successfull in their mission. They kept the village a secret for a long time, shielding all of the people there from the rest of the world. But they still could not keep death and hurt away, and they realize that heartache is a part of life.
I think that when they were trying to hide evil, it was going to come out some time, and the longer it was hidden, the more severe the evil would be when it finally did. When Noah got jealous of Ivy, he tried to kill Lucius, but when Ivy decides to go into the woods for medicine, he follows her there, trying to spook her or possibly trying to kill her. He is driven by his love for Ivy, but also by his hate for Lucius.

5:59 AM  
Blogger J Hunt said...

The world does move for love. The elders of The Village succeeded in their main goal but only for a short time. A goal so complicated as theirs could not be sustain for an elongated period of time. Human society creates evil and then its people sustain and control it. The Village and The Crucible essentially tell the same story. Both show how society can attempt to remove all sin and evil, but it is not possible to maintain this purity for any period of time. Eventually, human nature will corrupt the minds of the leaders as well as the citizens. Courage to stand up for the original goal is the only way that a society can stay somewhat intact. Courage and Cowardice collide and break down goals. But when courage and courage collide, they can do great deeds. This is shown when Ivy’s courage meets Noah’s cowardice. He is afraid of losing Ivy and this cowardice ends up destroying him. On the other hand, Ivy’s courage to find “The Towns,” combined with Lucius’ courage to defeat death and Kevin’s courage to help a stranger against his bosses will, work together to complete an important task. These three have strong courage and together, they save a life and perhaps the lives of an entire Village.

1:51 PM  
Blogger clay w said...

Society does not always create evil, but it does make it grow. Rumors, gossip, lies, deceit... all of these things are either created or furthured by society. In The Crucible, the entire town took one small act of dancing in the woods to the brutal murder of innocent people. They took something that was a small thing, as simple as dancing, and made it into something much larger and more evil. Society needs evil. All society needs evil. If there is no evil in a society, many people believe that there can be no good. The village leaders in the village tried to change that by creating a small town with no evil and only good. In the end, it failed. Something as good and pure as the love between Lucius and Ivy was turned into evil by Noah's jealousy. Yes, society can create evil, but more importantly, it needs evil.

2:53 PM  
Blogger jessicam said...

I would like to address the question, "Does society create evil or control the evil that rests innately in individuals?"
I believe that society brings out the evil that is in all people. It sometimes controls it, and makes good social events, like the relationship between Ivy and Lucius. However, the interactions can also be bad, like the jealousy within Noah that led to the stabbing of Lucius. I think, like matter, evil cannot be created; it can just be augmented from what we have inside of us to begin with. Certain situations can cause the ‘evil’ to be released from us. Jealousy and extreme disagreements could be such situations.

I would also like to agree with Erin G. and her statement about love being the ultimate goal for everyone. It seems to be most people's dreams to find this emotion and live with it. Also, Ivy braves the dark forest, death, and the outside world just for Lucius. I think, in turn, that this quote does hold true with the film. The world moves for love. At least, individual 'worlds' move for love. Ivy's world did. Her world was moved, not just because she endangered herself, but she found out the truth of the creatures. Her whole outlook of life and how she lives it was turned around because of her love for Lucius.

9:30 AM  
Blogger Kelly O said...

I agree with Kaitlin in that the elders created the village in order to shield thier children from evil. Instead of shielding the children from evil, they created more evil by lying and making everyone live in the shadow of their overpowering fear of the creatures. Like Kaitlin said, the elders succeeded in hiding from the real world but not in hiding from evil. Most of the evil in the village was created by the elders themselves. In order to scare the peopl into staying in the village, the elders had to decieve everyone they loved.
I also liked what Spencer said about courage. Everyone is capable of being brave, but many choose to hide rather than fight. In The Village, Ivy and Lucius both dispaly courage. They are willing to go into the woods to get medicine while everyone else hides inside. Kevin the park ranger also demonstrates courage by getting medicine for Ivy and helping her climb back over the wall. Ivy, Lucius, and Kevin all demonstrated courage to help each other. Ultimately they helped each other out of love.

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